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The Non-Obvious Show · Episode 6

How Ownership Really Works

with Michael Heller & Jim Salzman

Episode 6

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How does ownership really work? Michael Heller and James Salzman explore the six simple rules that everyone uses to claim everything in their new book Mine!. Michael Heller is a Professor of Real Estate Law at Columbia Law School, and is the author and co-author of multiple books. James Salzman is a Professor of Environmental Law at UCLA and UC Santa Barbara, and is the author and co-author of numerous bestselling books. In this episode, Michael Heller and James Salazman discuss possession versus ownership, the growing complications of digital ownership, and how ownership of original resources is claimed.

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About The Guests

Michael Heller Columbia Law property professor, co-author of Mine!

Michael Heller is the Lawrence A. Wien Professor of Real Estate Law at Columbia Law School and co-author of Mine! How the Hidden Rules of Ownership Control Our Lives. He studies property law and how competing ownership claims stall innovation, an idea he calls gridlock.

law.columbia.edu ↗
Jim Salzman Environmental law professor; co-author of Mine!

Jim Salzman is Donald Bren Distinguished Professor of Environmental Law at UCLA and UC Santa Barbara, and co-author of Mine! How the Hidden Rules of Ownership Control Our Lives. He studies environmental policy and the hidden rules deciding who owns what.

bren.ucsb.edu ↗

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